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can avoid the debt ceiling showdown, get rid of the debt ceiling altogether. tracy: and grounded, and other emergency landing for boeing's dreamliners. planned as the top two airlines stopped planes from flying altogether. lori: on a post-it note just isn't enough. employee who allegedly stole $400,000 worth of copy machine toner and resold it on the black market. you have to hear it to believe it. tracy: top of the hour. nicole petallides on the floor of the new york stock exchange. we can't seem to find our footing. nicole: interestingly enough we are not too far off of the unchanged line but we are up six of the last eight trading weeks. hovering around five year highs. as you noted early on, talk a lot about boeing weighing on the dow jones industrials today play with one issue after another. the s&p 500 down one point at 1471. it is also earning season. how they are faring. they came out obviously earnings-per-share eating earnings slightly miss. a new high for dell. and all those names are lower. continue to follow earnings here all week on fox business network. we have gen
will be a good option. not raising the debt ceiling does not mean we default faulty. why does the president keep saying that? why does the media let him keep saying that? [ male announcer ] ok, here's the way the system works. let's say you pay your guy around 2% to manage your money. that's not much you think. except it's 2% every year. does that make a difference? search "cost of financial advisors" ouch. over time it really adds up. then go to e-trade and find out how much our advice costs. spoiler alert: it's low. really? yes, really. e-trade offers investment advice and guidance from dedicated, professional financial consultants. it's guidance on your terms, not ours. that's how our system works. e-trade. less for us. more for you. >>. >> neil: spare no expense in graphics department. time for mainstream alerted. republicans are putting out that we are verge of defaulting. president-elect former senator from south carolina, jim demint. it's accepted as fact if we don't raise this thing we're all defaulting and the only way to do that is not need our bond obligations, right? >> neil, i think
escalates the fight on the w economy. is the debt ceiling negotiable? your thoughts? send us a tweet or post your comment on facebook. you can also send us an e-mail. president obama held his last official news conference of the first term yesterday in the east room of the white house. here's what he had to say on the debt ceiling debate. [video clip] >> republicans and congress have two choices. they can act responsibly and pay america's bills or they can act irresponsibly and put america through another economic crisis. but they will not collect ransomed in exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well-being of the american people well-being is not a leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the united states is not a bargaining chip. they had better choose quickly, because time is running short. the last time republicans in congress even flirted with this idea, r. triple-a credit rating was downgraded for the first time in our mystery, our businesses created the few jobs in any month in nearly the past three years, and the whole fiasco added to the deficit. ho
that will coalesce. debt ceiling discussion, debt ceiling and the fact that the federal government will run out of money at the end of march. >> all those bring a confluence of an opportunity to drive a debate and drive changes that get us towards long-term prosperity and get us off of this notion that we can just continue to borrow and spend. >> reporter: it is clear most republicans want there to be spending cuts as part of these fiscal matters as they work on long-term extensions or solving these problems long term. jenna. jenna: mike, if we're hearing this, then the white house is probably hearing this as well. any reaction from the white house about potentially this plan from republicans? report or the jenna, --. >> reporter: jenna white house officials are saying if congress doesn't want to raise the debt ceiling they should authority rise president obama to do it himself. they should extend it so it doesn't cause concern for the economy and global markets. >> longstanding tradition for the congress to raise the debt ceiling. this is power they have given themselves, the point is without
on this one. the upcoming debt, certainly, the debt ceiling set the tone, really, for what to expect, we think, for the next four years. the battle over that, already. do you see that as the case? >> well, it's certainly going to be a big challenge, both for the president and for republicans. you're already hearing from republicans that came out of their retreat yesterday, essentially walking back, that they were going to use this debt ceiling pretty much to -- you know, as the democrats like to say, to take the economy hostage, to demand spending cuts. they have backed off of that, looking at some plan to raise the debt ceiling at least for the next three months, to give some time for those talks to happen. and there is a big challenge in coming together, because the president still really feels like absolutely, the debt needs to be focus on, it's a huge issue, big priority, but it needs to be done in a balanced way so that all the spending cuts are not focused on programs for those who are most vulnerable. so we'll see. >> so ana, do you think that the debt ceiling will set the tone between
on this issue. >> as you well know, sir, finding votes for the debt ceiling can sometimes be complicated, you yourself as a member of the senate voted against the debt ceiling increase, and in previous aspects of american history, president reagan in 1985, president george herbert walker bush, and president clinton, deals contingent upon raising the debt ceiling and you yourself, related to debt or budget related maneuvers. and what many people are curious about the new adamant desire on your part not to negotiate that seems to conflict with the entire hire in the modern era of the presidents and the debt ceiling and your own debt ceiling and doesn't it suggest we're going into a default situation because no one is talking to each other about this. >> no, major, i think if you look at the history. getting votes for the debt ceiling is difficult and votes in in town are difficult. i went through this last year. what is different we never saw a situation like we saw last year in which certain groups in congress took such an absolutist position that we came within a few days of defaulting. >> lo
separate from the debt ceiling. >> raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. all it does is say that america will pay its bills, and we are not a deadbeat nation. >> clearly house speaker john boehner thinks differently. he responded by saying, quote, the american people do not support raising the debt ceiling without reducing government spending at the same time. >>> these pens are designed to be used only by one person, but an investigation discovered that many of them were used on multiple people. >>> are you in hawaii or going there anytime soon? surfers, beware. check out this video. it's a real-life jauss. two sharks were swimming dangerously close to the show. can you believe it? look at that. you could wade in and be bitten, eaten. last year there were a total of 11 shark attacks in hawaii. >> that's what i call dangerously close. >> oh, my goodness. >> so some people in the southeast waking up to the dual danger of flooding and ice. alexandra steele in the weather center. good morning. >> good morning, guys. each snow potentially for you around new york c
in us debt. we are being told that the debt ceiling rangeling could be worse for the country than going over the fiscal cliff. how is that for frighting? representative jason, hush-hush sweet speaker whatever happened to baby budget? you get the picture so to speak. this morning a reliable steady growth story. the end of the federal tax holiday has to hurt retail doesn't it? and the facebook disappointment. you have this mystery announcement coming. instead we have an announcement of a tool to search on big social networks. what a bust. yet the market didn't get hammered and then we got the nap time and the fresh bull came to play into the bell. what is happening here? there have been different time as long the way up where we had this same exact situation like what we are seeing here today. another occurred in the first three years in the '.90s. and every single case, every single one i can recall we get this moment where the market didn't get tired, but the analyst did. many big cap stocks had run up into their price points. and they stayed bullish or they actually even raised price p
might be able to recognize that business is good enough. given the litany of events, the debt ceiling, tax holiday loss, i can't blame anyone for getting off the bull. the breaks in the action often don't last a full day, like today. what happens? what happens if evaluations turn out to be attractive or what happens if the world gets better? what happens if we solve the debt debacle? once we are through the debt ceiling what leverage do republicans have? and the last chance to derail the term. i think i know what happens, the same thing that has happened always when we have had so many break outs they are left behind by the wall of worry. ask yourself, do you think that this many analysts could be right? do you think that these companies are going to prove to be brilliant exit prices? no. i bet that this is one of those moments where the world economies are going to be better. i say that because it is the same behavior i've seen over and over and over again. down days are days to buy, not sell. in order to get into this bull market, here is the bottom line, i think this market is simp
a statement on the debt ceiling. >> because the debt ceiling is the fight coming up next, as you know, brian, and everything the president would like to do at the start of that second term including new gun laws, immigration reform, energy. all those things will really be locked into place unless he can get some agreement on the debt, the president said he won't negotiate with congress about the debt ceiling, but we could be headed to another standoff, another kind of fiscal cliff similar to what we saw last summer unless that can be resolved. the president wants to get ahead of that, really put the responsibility on republicans in congress and make it clear he just doesn't want to budge. >> keep in mind the president will walk behind you any moment. there is a very thin line between leverage coming off an election and lame duck status, and the president has a robust agenda for this term number 2. >> it is, and the first year of second terms are the ones you have a shot as sitting president to have the most productive parts. but i want to go back and emphasize something david said, and that
to raise the debt ceiling, right? president obama warned he will not enter into another game of brinkmanship as he referred to it over the debt sealing with republicans. >> the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. if congressional republicans refuse to pay america's bills on time, social security checks and veterans benefits will be delayed. investors around the world will ask if the united states of america is in fact a safe bet. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. martha: a lot of talk about the president's demeanor at that news conference yesterday. we'll get into that a little bit more coming up but for now does this really come down to an issue of raising the spending limit or defaulting on our credibility as the president has talked about. let's bring in stuart varney, host of "varney & company" on fox business network. so, stuart, you feel the way he is framing this is incorrect? >> yes. we're not going to default, period. we are not going to default. the default means that yo
said he will not negoatiate on raising the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling, while house republican leader john boehner is insisting a debt increase would have to be accompanied by spending cuts to programs such as medicare. boehner has promised a vote tomorrow on $51 billion in aid to hurricane sandy vicitms. theres alot up in the air at boeing after a series of leaks and electrical glitches last week involving its latest aircraft, dubbed the 787 dreamliner. the faa will begin reviewing how the airliner is designed, manufacturered and assembled, with particular attention to the miles of electrical wiring used instead of heavier hydrallic systems. in a statement, boeing says "we are never satisfied while there is room for improvement. we welcome this opportunity to conduct this joint review." joe schwieterman of depaul university says it is too early for investors to be worried. "investors get nervous when there are these rollouts and there are problems. if this gets worse, boeing's stock could be affected, but i doubt it will be at this point. but who knows what will be revealed as these
is regarding the debt ceiling why doesn't the president go ahead and implement article 14 of the constitution, and if the republicans want to take this to court, let's go. let's have this conversation. let's explain to the american people why you racked up two wars unpaid for, tax breaks for rich people unpaid for, but you don't want to pay the bills. >> stephanie: exactly. i'm not sure what the white house is -- even on guns -- even any kind of mention of what the president might do on guns they are already talking about impeachment. that's the times we're in. twenty nine minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." ♪ show, to be able to come away armed with the facts, and the arguments to feel confident in their positions. i want them to have the data and i want them to have the passion. but it's also about telling them, you're put on this planet for something more. i want this show to have an impact beyond just informing. an impact that gets people to take action themselves. as a human being, that's really important. this is not j
the debt ceiling. >> dumping bonds, diving in stocks, records amounts of money flowing into stocks and etfs last week. is that a trend? that's ahead. >> a number you don't here with taxes, 0, but that's what the louisiana governor is proposing, a zero corporate tax rate and income personal tax rate. we have the man who crafted the plan here with more details. interesting. >> that fits me, but how does that get offset? >> there you did. there you go. >> okay. updated on the markets like we do every 15 minutes. nicole, we have bank earnings out this week. how are broader markets doing? >> a lot going on. friday, the dow went over the unchanged line 50 times, today, no different, back and forth action. the dow is gaining five points, but the nasdaq and s&p both pulling back some, and, of course, the nasdaq weighed down by apple, and let's get financials up for you. today is a weak day of earnings, and names in focus like goldman, bank of america, citi group, and morgan stanley. the group ran up over 26% in the last year, and the estimates have come down considerably from sector to sector so th
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about the debt ceiling. remember, president bush was in office at the time, so senator obama would probably be against some of the things he was talking about, particularly the debt ceiling. the senator called it irresponsible to increase the debt. listen to then-senator obama. >> the problem is that the way bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents. number 43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome so we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back, $30,000 for every man, woman and child. that's irresponsible. it's unpatriotic. >>steve: there you've got the president, back then senator, back in the day saying that president of ours, he's running up the bills, and it would be unpatriotic what he's doing. and we cannot raise the debt limit. forward to his administration, and i think this is going to be the fourth time he has asked congress to up the debt ceiling. of course what he said is, i know the republic
voting for the debt ceiling when there is a republican president. but you never saw a situation in which democrats suggested somehow that we would go head and default if we didn't get 100% of our way that. is not how it's supposed to work. >> sean: i can't help but you remind that had obama in 2006 was a junior senator from illinois who opposed raising debt ceiling that. is right. barack obama scolding republicans for linking p spending cuts to raising debt ceiling himself voted against raising the debt ceiling. here is what the anointed one said in 2006, said leadership means the buck stops here, washington is shifting burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and our grandchildren. er america has a debt, and a failure of leadership. americans deserve better, i, therefore, intend to oppose the efforts to increase american's debt limit so he is doing what he said shouldn't be done. but in doing so is demonstrating his morale superiority. the second thing we saw today is on full display he said republicans were sus spishus about social security and government support for
, trace. and a push to completely eliminate the debt ceiling once and for all effectively eliminating any legal checks on federal spending. up next, stu varney, what this could mean and why a whole new class of taxes is also now getting some buzz. and new controversy over reports that federal agents waited to arrest an illegal immigrant and a sex offender who worked for this powerful democratic senator, senator menendez, you saw in that picture there. what, what really went on? why was this done? an early morning rescue puts a whole new meaning on another brick in the wall. as firefighters-- did you watch this on america's news room with bill and martha? firefighters worked hours to free a woman who got stuck in a tight spot, how it happened. ♪ ♪ caught between a rock and a hard place ♪ bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. before you begin an aspirin regimen. music: "make someone happy" music: "make someone happy"
kicks into high gear. congress has just weeks to increase our debt ceiling. fitch, a leading credit ratings agency, says a repeat of the 2011 debt limit crisis would spark a formal review of our country's aaa rating. that could mean a downgrade by them. now you might remember, s&p, a different agency, already downgraded our country in 2011. that was the first time in our history that that happened. the president is taking a hard-line stand, issuing a warning of his own to the gop. >> we have to pay our bills. congress has two choices here. we can act responsibly and pay america's bills. or they can act irresponsibly and put america through another economic crisis. but they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. jenna: republicans like congressman jason chaffetz blasting back against the president. >> i think the president was terribly irresponsible today. to say he will not talk about it because he is above it, but blame all of congress, in part congress helped create this problem but we are going to hear to solve this problem. i got elected to
. >> well, good luck with tha >>> raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. all it does is say that america will pay its bills. and water not a dead beat nation. >> sounds simple, doesn't it? but like so many other crises and standoffs from the past two years, raising the nation's debt ceiling is a zero sum props. somebody wins only if somebody else loses. we're speaking of of course politically here, not financially. economically it's hard to find any winners if the treasury can't close the budget gap. runs about $100 million every month. my next guest worries about it a lot. signor partner and managing director of the boston consulting group and author and columnist. so this becomes tricky for people tound, but essentially the debt ceiling, is it the kind of tool that anybody should be used in order to force people to be more austere in the way they spend in the future? >> well, it's a way to do it, but it's a very dangerous way to do it because we start playing with everybody in our economy eye lives. so if we hit the debt ceiling and we don't have a bill that changes
illustrate why we are going to have the big fights over the next couple of months to raise the debt ceiling and two-thirds of the republican caucuses voted for this. they want to send a message that they really, really needed it, that they want to cut spending for every doll they put out there, even on disaster relief, which historically has not been required to have an offset. >> and definitely has ruffled feathers in the last congress. all of our viewers i'm sure will rememb how new jersey governor chris christie didn't hold back in showing how angry he was at congress, the house, and specifically speaker boehner when the vote was delayed last time. listen to him. this is on january 2nd. >> new jersey deserves better than the due police tea we saw displayed last night. america deserves better than just another example of a government that has forgotten who is the to serve and why. 66 days and counting. shame on you. shame on congress. >> when you listen to that and when you listen to the house floor and sound bites before , s what you're saying why speaker boehner did what he did in the v
of the neighbors, cooler heads will prevail now between now and the time we deal with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. but i didn't come here to talk about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they allr today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score, i owe an incredible debt of gratitude to you at the head table and those of you in the room. i know we don't have you nan hit in this ballroom nor do we in any ballroom, but we all acknowledge that we have to do something. we have to act. and i hope we all agree, there is a need to respond to the carnage on our streets and in our schools. i hope we all agree that mass shootings like the one we witnessed in newtown 34 days ago cannot be continued to be tolerated. that tragedy has affected the public in a way i have never see
're not worrying about re-election. you saw that, for example, in the debt ceiling fight. first debt ceiling fight in 2011, the president could not go to the brink, because he was worried if they went over the brink -- >> sure. >> -- economic downturn, you don't win. now you can take a harder line. on the other hand in a second term there's often the sense that you have a narrow window on domestic issues with congress, probably about a year, maybe two at the most to get things done and then your attention usually turns more to foreign policy. but the biggest thing is that 1600 pennsylvania avenue is kind of a dangerous neighborhood. if you hang around there long enough, the odds start going against you. often the second term has been very tough for presidents. we'll see if this one can avoid that precedent. >> never heard it described that way. dangerous neighborhood. dangerous territory. >> yes. >> ron brownstein, nice to see you this morning. thank you very much. >>> next hour, what are we missing? is there an issue that no one is talking about now that will define the president's second term? w
republicans, who want to tie the debt ceiling to cutting spending and obama says blow up the economy and risk the full faith and credit of the united states and to do so is irresponsible, the consequences of not paying our bill would be disastrous. the charges went on and on and on and made it sound like only an anarchist would oppose raising the debt ceiling. listen to this: . >> what i will not do is to have that negotiation with a gun at the head of the american people, the threat that unless we get our way, unless you gut medicare or medicaid or otherwise slash things that the american people don't believe should be slashed, that we're going to threaten to wreck the entire economy. look, i don't think anybody would consider my position unreasonable here. democrats don't like voting for the debt ceiling when the republican's president, but you never saw the situation in which democrats suggested somehow that we would go ahead and default if we didn't get 100% of our way, that's just not how it's supposed to work. >> sean: hearing that i can't help, but be reminded of obama's record on the
for raising the debt ceiling. the house of representatives is back in session today, too, and republicans are just as adamant, insisting they won't raise the debt limit, unless the president goes along with spending cuts. let's go live to cnn white house correspondent brianna keilar. >> reporter: president obama stating very clearly today that he will not negotiate deficit reduction, tax increases and spending cuts attached to the debt ceiling. this of course does follow that bruising battle the year before last, where he did negotiate on the issue, and the u.s. nearly went to the brink of default. he said that congress has to pay the bills that it's already racked up. >> you don't go out to dinner and then, you know, eat all you want and then leave without paying the check. and if you do, you're breaking the law. and congress should think about it the same way that the american people do. you don't -- now, if congress want, to have a debate about maybe we shouldn't go out to dinner next time, maybe we should go to a more modest restaurant, that's fine. that's the debate that we should ha
the government borrow more money effectively raising the debt ceiling. the deal not all worked out just yet. but apparently it this will not require the spending cuts that house republicans had wanted. just released fox news poll finds that 69% favor raising the debt limit only if there are major spending cuts involved. and 23% say it's reckless not to raise it regardless. the poll also shows more than 8 in 10 think government spending is out of control. only 11% believes it's being managed carefully. mike immanuel tracking developments on the hill tonight. what's behind this house republican plan. >> bill, a lot of g.o.p. frustration has been based on the fact the senate has not passed a budget. so republicans are trying to force it house speaker john boehner told house members, quote: before there is any long-term debt alowe time for a budget to get done. >> he our hope is to pass something very early so the senate can take action as well. i wouldn't put any jeopardizing of the economy there. shows that it is a very rational, put us on a better path and i would think all the american pub
and not do our job which is unforgivable as a way to make these policies. second, you have the debt ceiling. it is the wrong thing to hold the country hostage. it's also going to be a play we know there's could be a fight over the debt ceiling. in the past the debt ceiling reminded folks we were borrowing too much and we needed to make changes. it could be a useful reminder not if it goes as far as people really start to worry about in the u.s. government and economic damage which is what we saw last time. the third piece of the resolution the fact that government spending is going to expire and these three issues is another kind of fiscal cliff and the question is is it going to force action with the hardest pieces that are still remaining were the fact when it comes to the fiscal clef they still for all intensive purposes it's good we didn't go over the fiscal cliff, it's good we raise revenue, but we basically did what we always do in washington which is we punted all the hard choices and a sort of tried to declare a bipartisan victory. but it wasn't theirs of the question was what's goi
to negotiate with republicans about raising the debt ceiling. >> if the republicans in congress have made a decision that they want to shut down the government in order to get their way, then they have a vote in the house of representatives to do that. >> the problem, that's what they say they're going to do. great to see you birthday. david, the president himself saying, i acknowledge it, a government shut-down is a possibility. cathy mcmorris rogers of washington state told politico, i think it's possible we would shut down the government. so here we are, we're getting to a problem. treasury secretary tim gietner said mid-february/march is as far as he can go. who blinks first? >> this is like one of the situations in the monkey cage at the zoo where the monkeys bang their chole their chests and look as powerful as possible. the president is escalating this situation. no 14th amendment option. do it my way or we plunge the public credit of the united states into bankruptcy. and the republicans are responding equivalently by saying to the president, we're not scared. we're not scared of
-imposed thing coming up is a debt ceiling, something americans have not heard of before two years ago. the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. these are bills that have party been racked up, and we need to pay them. so while i am willing to compromise and find common ground for how to reduce the deficits, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they have already racked up. if congressional republicans refuse to pay america's bills on time, social security checks, veterans benefits will be delayed. we might not be able to pay our troops or honor our contracts with small-business owners. food inspectors, air traffic controllers, specialists who track down loose nuclear materials would not get their paychecks. investors around the world will ask if the united states of america is in fact a safe bet. markets could go haywire. interest rates would spike for anyone who
president obama is holding the last news conference of his term. they're looking to raise the debt ceiling of which stands at $16.40 trillion. he may also talk about the war in afghanistan. you can watch your remarks frigid his remarks live here on c-span. in the meantime, some of the headlines in this morning's "washington journal." >> been morning to you. i want to start with a story. video tames -- games kick short trips. we will reach you that. president obama promised and all of the above examination of gun violence. we want to get your take on what you think those solution should be. we are are they getting comments on the facebook page. i want to read a few of those for you now. host: we will take your calls this morning in the first 45 minutes, but first want to play you a segment from the state of the union. this is congresswoman marsha blackburn, talking about the role of violent video games. [video clip] >> i watched a couple of these of violent video games to you ready for this segment and i was astounded with some of the things i was seeing on call to duty. we know the norway
yesterday talking about the debt limit, debt ceiling. he's talked about our economy. i think it's worth noting that since 1923, when the president was required to furnish a budget in a time deadline given for furnishing that budget, 90 years, 90 years the president is required by law to furnish a budget. since 1923 those, those ensuing 90 years, there were apparently 11 times when presidents have been unable to get the budget to congress as required by law. and most of those -- well, some of those 11, there were very good reasons. but it's interesting to note in the last 90 years, out of the 11 times that the budget from the president has been late, four of those 11 have been under the obama administration. we're also informed that there is a chance once again, like there was a year and a half ago, that our credit rating of the u.s. could be lowered again. by another credit rating agency. some have tried to paint it as a different story, different picture, but for those of us who recall what happened, s&p made it clear that they didn't believe that the united states was serious about de
on extending the debt ceiling for at least a three-month period. is this any signs of hope in terms of cooperation or more maneuvering? >> i think this unfortunately more a sign that republicans realize it was horribly damaging to them to continue to jeopardize the full faith and credit of the united states. now, it still does that because they are really perpetrating colossal uncertainty by proposing only to extend the debt ceiling increase by three months. i mean in a fragile recovery like the one we have we need to have certainty, we need to pay our bills, and we need to send president obama a clean debt ceiling increase. >> you also will need to have a budget in place in order to come to that debt ceiling debate as the republicans have laid it out at this point and you're also going to be dealing with the deficit and all of the other issues. so are you basically saying you don't think anything's changed here? >> no. i think the republicans have realized it's a political problem and a real problem if we jeopardize the full faith and credit of the united s
the constitution allows him to raise the debt ceiling on his own, again, congress be damned. add it up, i'm telling you, barack obama is doubling down. and here's the kicker. with plenty of compliant democrats in congress to help. but those democrats might regret what they're aiding and abetting, because they're the ones who'll be fumbling and fuming. when nancy pelosi pushes the 14th amendment to give the power to bypass congress, she is giving him the power to bypass her too. you don't need a trillion dollar magic coin to realize this is nothing less than a high stakes power grab. now, it's not unusual for presidents of either party to try. it is very unusual for so many in both parts to lay down and let him do it. all right, here to hash it out, constitutional expert ilya shapiro and sabrina schafer as well as "the wall street journal"'s steve moore. steve, a disturbing series of events, to put it mildly. >> no question about it, neil. and, look, we have a three-branch system of government in washington. the president is the chief of the executive branch, that means the president doesn't make th
again. another recession if congress balks at raising the debt ceiling. that's right. those two words, we're all using them again. debt ceiling. this time around, the president is telling house republicans they can do it his way or own the blame. here he was. >> and republicans in congress have two choices here. they can act responsibly and pay america's bills, or they can act irresponsibly and put america through another economic crisis. but they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. >> also, need to tell you the president did speak about his gun violence effort. he's had the package put together by the vice president is on his desk today. and he will talk about it a little later on this week. want to bring in two people here, ali velshi with me from new york, and gloria borger there in our nation's capital, to you both welcome. ali, it has been more than a year since that whole previous debt limit debacle. and i know you are saying, especially comparing this to what we just saw on new year's day with the fiscal cliff, this is going to be much,
and pushing us up against the debt ceiling. but remarkably, president obama is now calling for even more taxes, more spending, and more borrowing in return for any future spending controls. he said yesterday that we can't finish the job of deficit reduction through spending cuts alone. simply put, the president got his tax increases in the last congress. it's time for this congress to tackle washington's spending bing. i'd like to recognize the gentlelady from indiana. >> mr. chairman, my message otoday is simple. on too many big items, congress has been kicking the can down the road for years. it's time to supply real leadership on the most pressing challenges we face. this is the only way we can restore trust in congress. we're fast approaching a dead end. the social security trust fund will be bankrupt in 20 years. medicare and medicaid are not on a sustainable path. it is wrong for us to make proppingses to the american people we know we cannot keep. ms. brooks: we must address the drivers of our debt, medicare, medicaid, an social security. not because these programs don't have merit and
. but the president says he will not have the debt ceiling tied to the bills congress has already racked up. >> what i will not do is to have that negotiation with a gun at the head of the american people. >> reporter: the debt ceiling deadline is just one of three budget showdowns the white house and congress face in the coming months. house speaker john boehner said if laws do not tackle the debt and spending at the same time, it will cost americans jobs. in a statement, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said "the president and his allies need to get serious about spending." danielle nottingham, cbs news, the white house. >>> military suicides have reached record levels. so bad that the secretary of defense calls it an epidemic. the pentagon says there were 349 suicides among active duty personnel last year. that's more than the number of combat deaths in afghanistan. experts say iraq and afghanistan war veterans suffering from depression and post traumatic stress are at the highest risk. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton will testify next week about the deadl
, give the weight of what happens if we breech the debt ceiling? social security checks will be late, veterans benefits delayed, troops won't get paid, tax returns held up, interest rates could spike, markets could go hay wooir. it could dip into the recession. deficit would go up. i mean, we're talking about a very punishing thing that will affect american people who had nothing to do with what they're trying to object to or deal with. >> you oo >> you're absolutely right. congress spent that money. they spent it. whether they liked it or not, they were the ones who spent it. but it's more important than that. it's what you point out. the stakes here are really high for the republican party. far be it from you to advise the republican party. but if i did, i would say stay away from shutting the government down. stay away from letting the debt ceiling not be raised because those are things that the american people will hate. they'll hate us defaulting onli blame you for it. they'll hate us shutting the government down. if you want to make a stand, make it in the sequester. the seques
are not a deadbeat nation. we have to pay our bills. is he winning this debt ceiling battle? i know you have written about this on slate. >> i think he is winning intel correct annually and emotional and probably politically with the public but it remains to be seen what congress is going to do. we haven't seen a lot of engagement with congress yet. the debt ceiling somewhere between february 15th and the end of february, early march. we don't know quite exactly where it will be. we don't know whether john boehner and the republican house will look him in the eye and say we are not doing anything. it's a mystery right now. >> in fact, politico reported this week over housealf of house republicans say they are willing to shut the government down if they don't get the spending cuts that they are demanding as a price for raising the debt ceiling. >> that is what they are saying. it's still far enough out so that it could all be posturing. even if i accept it -- and i do -- that half of the house members actually believe that as we get closer, as the pressure builds, c
. >> schieffer: let's shift the matters back here at home. money, we've got the debt ceiling argument coming up here. the government's going to run out of money at the end of february if something isn't done. do you see more of the same what we saw during this fiscal cliff or is this something better on the horizon. >> wouldn't that be great if i could say yes but i can't say yes. remember when the election ended and it looked like this was going to be an era of compromise. john boehner came out and said of course we want to work with the president. the president said of course we want to work with the public. that was shattered within about 20 minutes after both men said that. and so i don't think we're looking at compromise anywhere, it's really about who can get their way by trying to intimidate the other side more. so democrats not the president but other democrats saying hey here's a way that's not compromise. we're going to print a coin, a trill undollar coinen dollar coin. think of this sort of establishment republican saying how about a partialual shut down of the government to get what
is up against republicans, he trying to work on the debt ceiling. you have the whole issue of whether or not the debt ceiling is going to be raised, whether or not that is going to be held hostage to actually paying the bills the government has to pay. you also talk about immigration reform. where does this fit in in terms of the president's priorities, do you think? >> well, from where i sat today, obviously it seems to be a very high priority for the president of the united states. i'll let the white house and the administration answer how they're going to deal with congress. that's their task, not mine. but i'm confident that the president, the vice president and the entire administration is going to do everything they can to get the package they proposed today through congress. and, you know, when you heard the president say, i think it's essential, american citizens, the american people have to demand this. we have to act. when you have 1,000 people nearly killed in last 30 days at the hands of gun, when you have mass tragedies like happened in connecticut, aurora, colorado, oreg
deadline coming up as the so-called debt ceiling. something most americans have not even heard of before two years ago. i want to be clear about this. the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. these are bills that are ready been racked up. we need to pay them. i am willing to compromise and find a common ground on how to reduce our deficit america cannot avoid another debate with this progress about whether or not they should pay the bills that they have already racked up. if congressional republicans refused to pay america's bills on time, so security checks and veterans' benefits will be delayed. we may not be able to pay our troops or on our contracts with small business owners. food inspectors, air traffic controllers, specialists who track down those of nuclear materials would not get their paychecks. the rest of the world would ask if the united states of america is in fact a stay at bat. market to go haywire and
a consensus on this in the political process that the debt ceiling has no rational place in this. the president addressed that yesterday, but the fact is playing russian roulette with the u.s. economy and the wellbeing of our population has no place in an honest debate about how much spending should be cut, how much investment should be made to address these broader economic and social deficit ands how to resolve this and get on to other parts of the national agenda. sooner or later, i think, the congress and the president will agree. you saw approaches to this in senator mcconnell's comments in the last couple of weeks and, obviously, in the president's that the key control is in the authorization and appropriation process, and the ability to pay those bills through either revenue sources or borrowing ought to be attached to the decision to spend, not used as a point of leverage in many broader and more or important negotiations. >> thank you, lew. can i just follow up, and i don't know if this is a little bit of a tan gent, but i think i just want to ask you because of your pos
the freshman republicans who told john boehner that he would not be voting for the debt ceiling proposal. that was from the last time the house republicans threatened the country with defaulting on our debt back in 2011. dennis ross, you probably should have calibrated your place in line a little better. throw a democrat in there ahead of you when you realize that's what you're going to get. get there in time for the repeal prohibition amendment next time. that's more fun. if you have found yourself at home constitutionally -- forgive me, constitutionally incapable of getting excited over having another fight about the debt ceiling this year, if this isn't exciting because it just feels like groundhog day to you, oh my god, i've got reckless brinksmanship fatigue, it is true that it's hard to get excited over something we have done before. it is 2013 now. remember when it happened it was a total disaster. even if you just ignore the political consequences, if you just look at the economic impact, it was a self-imposed economic disaster caused by washington refusing to do something that i
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